Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Better three-member African-American female pop group of the 90s: Salt-n-Pepa or TLC?


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  1. GrimaceJuly 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM

    TLC wins on looks.

    SnP wins on late 80s/early 90s hip hop style.

    Both have a bunch of classic 90s songs.

    Lisa Left Eye Lopes (of TLC) burned down the house of an NFL player.

    Advantage TLC.

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  2. Wesley Con QuesoJuly 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM

    I second TLC and it's not even close. Only positive for S&P is that they had their own DJ (Spinderella). Not only was there waterfalls, lets not forget "No Scrubs" and "Creep". also Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez (LLEL) not only burned down Andre "Bad Moon" Rison's house, but also went out hard core in a Mitsubishi Montero (the first car I ever owned from HS and College). Also, Push it by S&P = most overused and annoying ringtone. Huge negative.

    Creep > Whatta Man
    No Scrubs > Push it
    Waterfalls > Lets talk about sx

    It's a clean sweep. En Vogue might have put up a better fight.

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  3. John McQuesadillaJuly 30, 2009 at 7:32 AM

    En Vogue is a quartet, so that is an unfair comparison, but i must say i feel grimace is trying to hide his true feelings for SWV (Sisters with Voices) by deliberately excluding them from the debate. I am onto you good sir.

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  4. Wesley Con QuesoJuly 30, 2009 at 7:41 AM

    WOW. Big time ***BELL*** for Dilla. SWV is the real comparison, with Weak sliding in as the Ace in their rotation to go up against Waterfalls. Plus "Right Here" sampled MJ (RIP). However, they get severly burned in the hotness category (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swv_rca_pkit.jpg). But much more worthy of being in the discussion. Again, great call Dilla. You make me get so weak in the knees I can hardly speak, I lose all control....

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  5. Taco GrandeJuly 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM

    I remember exactly where I was when Lisa Left Eye Lost It. I was waiting for pizza at Ramuntos (SLICES!). I don't think I ever stopped waiting...RIP Lefty!

    I venture to disagree with the above posts (specifically 1 and 2), partly because I am a scrub and as that song gained in popularity, so I faded into obscurity. That song was and still is one of the most overplayed songs of all time and I really don't see what the big deal is if I am hanging out the side of my best friend's ride trying to hollar. Also, the whole waterfalls analogy was a botched execution - what our generation needed in the 90s was to take risks, to chase those beautiful waterfalls, not stick to the sad, tired rhythms of the Democrats trying to undo the visionary "waterfall" policies of Reagan.

    Also, what women really needed at that crucial juncture between the 80s and 90s (which I argue was the turning point of our generation) was, in fact, to talk about sex, baby. After years of repression and bad clothing in the 1980s, what sassy women with flavor need was a mighty mighty good man with whom they could frankly and without reproach discuss the taboo subject of sex.

    Finally, let's take a look at the "street names" of each band. From Wikipedia: TLC was a four-time[1] Grammy Award-winning American R&B and hip hop group, consisting of Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins, Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes, and Rozonda "Chilli" Thomas.

    T-boz? WTF is a t-boz? Also, Chilli? Not even just Chill? Worse still, her first name was fking Rozonda. What on God's green earth inspired her mother to name her child fking Rozonda? Sounds like a japanese heavy construction machine that is, somehow, fat.

    Salt n Pepa? "Salt-N-Pepa is a Grammy Award-winning American hip hop trio from Queens, New York that came onto the music scene in 1985. The group, consisting of Cheryl James ("Salt"), now Cheryl Wray, Sandra Denton ("Pepa"), and DJ Deidra "Dee Dee" Roper (Spinderella)."

    Spinderella - enough said. Salt-n-Pepa wins, kill yourselves.

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  6. Wesley Con QuesoJuly 30, 2009 at 8:25 AM

    Challenge. Your main point is:

    "After years of repression and bad clothing in the 1980s, what sassy women with flavor need was a mighty mighty good man with whom they could frankly and without reproach discuss the taboo subject of sx."

    How, then, do you explain "I ain't too proud to beg"?

    Conflicting messages by S&P are exactly what made them an inferior and obsolete group.

    In fact, those songs right there can be considered a microcosm of their failure and chemistry. Lets talk about sex (salt) and I ain't too proud to beg (peppa) ain't meshing to make no hits like or spark a generation like Rozonda.

    Your entire foundation of argument is built on pillars of Salt (no Peppa).

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  7. SquidJuly 30, 2009 at 9:49 AM

    I should think that Clubber/TG would be all over Chilli due to his unhealthy love of Usher.

    I will submit another group for discussion - Destiny's Child, after they kicked out one of the group members and it was left with three. I'm not sure if this actually happened.

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